If the UIGEA is repealed...

BurnleyMik · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:56 am

What will it mean to us Eurodonks?

I have recently read quite a number of articles and news clips about the UIGEA and from the looks of it, it's under attack from a lot of different angles. iMEGA is the latest group who are trying to sue the US government over the UIGEA and have suceeded to get a court hearing on July 6th.

So basically, IMO, it's looking more and more likely that this law is going to be overturned in the US , in the not too distant future and the market will flood with more casual US players.

My question is this.. how will this affect us, the European players?

Also, what is the site you would immediately play at if it was overturned?

snake_eyes · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:40 am

We become rich? Fill the fishtank, lovely.

FT for me, I got rb weeeeeeeeeeeee!!

BurnleyMik · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:51 am

What about the doors opening for the US Sharks to start swimming in our waters?

Gorvacofin · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:37 pm

I think as a whole, the fish/shark ratio would increase, so it'll all be good.

snake_eyes · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:07 pm

Gorvacofin wrote:

I think as a whole, the fish/shark ratio would increase, so it'll all be good.

Looooooooooool, quality statement

BurnleyMik · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:51 pm

If I remember rightly, Party was the biggest site by quite a bit before the UIGEA and as such I reckon most of em would flock back to what they know. I'd like to be sat there waiting for em :-)

snake_eyes · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:29 pm

BurnleyMik wrote:

If I remember rightly, Party was the biggest site by quite a bit before the UIGEA and as such I reckon most of em would flock back to what they know. I'd like to be sat there waiting for em :-)

Hmmm, any RTR deals for party?

vbm · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:15 pm

Party

Simply because they will be the ones that will be in the best place to capitalise when the act is repealed.

They have recently being paying massise fines to the DOJ and pulled out of the US market as soon as they were told to. Stars and Tilt have not done this and so will continue to feel the full wrath of the US government.

When Party can advertise on US Tv like they used to and accept payments from US debit & credt cards, they will dominate all again. The US fish will flock there and so will the sharks.

Pulling out of the US market was a calculated decision by Party, get out now and hopefully take advantage later. They could have taken the company back into private ownership and reaped the benefits liek the other sites, but decided to play the long game.

The games would be so much softer if this were to happen.

BurnleyMik · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:00 pm

Snake - Party offer sweet FA interms of deals tbh. You can get the odd good Sign Up bonus, but all in all not very good. If you are thinking of signing up, just hold fire a little while, we have something coming up that maybe able to get you the bst bonus deal out there.

VBM - Never thought of it like that. I always wondered why Party just took this hit on the chin. Now i see their point. They obviously felt the UIGEA couldn;t hold and just like you say when the time comes they will be all over the US like a rash.

Do you think the smaller networks will be able to benefit from the UIGEA being removed?

I personally just hope that Online Poker gets properly regulated so that sites are held accountable for their actions and players have somewhere to urn if they feel an injustice has been done.

vbm · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:05 pm

BurnleyMik wrote:

Snake - Party offer sweet FA interms of deals tbh. You can get the odd good Sign Up bonus, but all in all not very good. If you are thinking of signing up, just hold fire a little while, we have something coming up that maybe able to get you the bst bonus deal out there.

VBM - Never thought of it like that. I always wondered why Party just took this hit on the chin. Now i see their point. They obviously felt the UIGEA couldn;t hold and just like you say when the time comes they will be all over the US like a rash.

Do you think the smaller networks will be able to benefit from the UIGEA being removed?

I personally just hope that Online Poker gets properly regulated so that sites are held accountable for their actions and players have somewhere to urn if they feel an injustice has been done.

It all depends on how easy the US make it to get money online. If the small sites backed out like many did I think they will be fine. Pacific, Prima, Party, Crypto etc all left the US market right away.

As for regulation, I honestly feel like it is regulated more or less. I mean at least on Pacific and Party that are regulated by British entities and floated on the stack exchange. Stars you know you are in safe hands.

I went to Vegas in 05 and 06 and honestly every other advert on TV was for Party poker. It was annoying and I was only there for ten days each time. Sick sick advertising brings in the players.

Comrade3 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:00 pm

I just don't know how much of a difference it will make... If I'm US based and wanted to play then it dosent take a genious to work out I could on stars or tilt, therefore I'm already playing...

I just don't see it as being a return to the good old days, them days are gone.

Hope I'm wrong, C.

rickyrosa · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:26 am

agree, Tilt and stars have the market sown up, infact imop the only americans who will play the smaller euro sites will be the sharks or better players who will go looking for smaller fields and wha they percieve to be weaker players... also go looking for r/back deals...

the average american is still going to play at tilt/stars imop, you may see a few more fish, but for every fish i reckon you will see 2 sharks, though in thoery it could make stars and tilt slighlty softer...

vbm · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:11 am

Cant see it myself.

http://www.onlinecasinoworld.com/casino ... ming-fined

Party have paid million in fines, millions. They are sucking up big time.

Stars and Tilt just stuck two fingers up.

The US government are ball breakers, they aint going to forget this.

The recreational market is huge, in the US.

rickyrosa · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:23 am

but they cant turn around and say, oh we are know letting our people play on party but not on stars and tilt?

vbm · **Posted:** Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:29 am

rickyrosa wrote:

but they cant turn around and say, oh we are know letting our people play on party but not on stars and tilt?

Yes they can and they will.

They can allow people to freely deposit and withdraw on Party, and allow them to advertise the .com site rather than .net.

Stars and Tilt will be on the [censored] list for many years

Yorkshire Pudding · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:43 am

BurnleyMik wrote:

What about the doors opening for the US Sharks to start swimming in our waters?

The US Sharks are already here mate, think about it! Its the recreational players who can't be bothered to jump through hoops in order to deposit and lose their $100 on a Friday night after talking to Chad in the canteen at lunchtime.

The players who can get money online have done so because they really want to play which IMO means there is a better chance they have at least half a clue about poker

StarlightCoast · **Posted:** Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:10 am

BurnleyMik wrote:

What about the doors opening for the US Sharks to start swimming in our waters?

We are already here. Buwahahahahaha

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